Jerry Reese spoke with Mike Francesa Monday on WFAN. Here is the audio link.
In trying to review the Super Bowl XLVI run, we laid out 10 things that we observed.
Reese and Francesa both acknowledged the "LUCK" needed in winning this title.
Reese: "We got a little bit lucky, got hot at the right time... rather be lucky than good ... Some times you get lucky like that. We were very fortunate. We got lucky with Victor (Cruz). He deserves most of the credit, Tom Coughlin and his coaching staff deserve a lot credit as well.... We are very fortunate... Again, you have to have a little bit of luck."
In a relatively short interview, General Manager Jerry Reese mentioned being lucky and fortunate a total of seven times. There are more than a few takeaways from this. Reese demonstrated tremendous humility and gratitude. This is the mark of a professional who is willing to acknowledge that he was not solely responsible for this. He cited numerous times the efforts of the players, the efforts of the coaching staff and also gave a lot of credit to Marc Ross and the player development unit. I have faulted Reese in the past for not owning up and taking responsibility for when personnel inadequacies went bad (ie preseason 2009 at Safety, which led to the subsequent CC Brown debacle), but it is a tremendous sign of his character to deflect praise and acknowledge the good fortune this franchise definitely had in getting this title.
Remember, we also said in the same post nearly the exact words of Reese:
"4) It is better to be lucky and good than unlucky and great."
The Giants were lucky and good. Do you want to know what unlucky and great is? It is when Sheldon White gets called for pass interference, the real horror that sets up the Flipper Anderson TD two plays later that beats us in the 1989 (1990) playoffs. Luck evens out in the long run. This title the Giants have collected is payback for the shafting we got elsewhere. Madden: "I don't think that's interference... You can't make that kind of call..."
Reese reviewed the 7 Draft Picks:
Wilson- Hard-nosed, tough. Reese echoes Wonder's sentiment that he is very well rounded and can do many things.
There were not any "elite" pass rushers in the 2012 draft.
Randle- did not benefit from a good LSU QB. Reese says Randle has the route tree experience. Separately, Wonder disagrees with this, which is why he had Randle rated lower.
"We thought it was a WR draft. There's always enough players." This confirms what we said when reviewing the WRs earlier in the month, that Mario Manningham was let go because the Giants were confident the Draft would generate a WR.
Hosley- if a couple of inches taller and a few more lbs, that he'd be a R1 player. Plays with confidence. 'He's going to make noise in the secondary.'
Why didn't Fleener get drafted at the end of R1? Reese did not have him rated as a R1 player. Reese also made reference to the hyperbole of Graham and the NE Tight Ends, that the media and the mocks were probably caught up in the recent draft successes of 2010, but that it was now 2012. When we reviewed the TE's before the draft, we noted this as well, urging against Fleener or a high TE pick.
Robinson- the R4 pick. Big weight, height, speed 4.57, long arms. Late bloomer, the sky is the limit for him. Freakish physical assets that JPP has.
Mosley- can play RT or Guard, big tough, hard-nosed, like Diehl.
McCants- really long. Strictly a Tackle. "Smart and tough" attribute important for your Offensive Tackle.
Kuhn- DT, gym rat, tough also.
Here it is! I challenge any of you to read what I have said and find that I didn't praise those who deserved it. It seems that stats which are the lifeblood of initial scouting became something else to most of you!
I admit that I do not like the Giants front office and I find it silly that none of you who know the game have never talked about Afterburner! This was a motivational group that happened to "teach when the Giants lost for the second time to Washington. Obviously they did a great job but when the defensive coordinator says he was "not the D.C. in those meetings than you have something to think about. Paul found the story which in my opinion was the "find of the year".
The unanswered question is who made the decision and why did the entire Giant organization outsourse their respective jobs.
I have been a passionate Giant fan longer than many of you have been above ground. I played the game through college and then landed a scouting gig with the Raiders. I did that for eleven years.
My concerns about the Giants were real and steeped in fact. When you are the worst rushing team in the game,lose to a team in your division twice,give up over 400 yards a game the4 odds of going Super are infinitesimal.
I noted that Eli was hit 20x vs San Fran and sacked six. He was incredibly amazing to take the punishment.
I also was the first to sing the praises of Cruz who was hurt in year one but had route running skills rarely found in a rookie. He had a season unlike any rookie in my lifetime and turns out to be a team guy as he accepts the minimal contract he has.
From a fan's standpoint that is great. From Cruxe's decision one must wonder who his agent is and why the Giants "bumped" him. He earned it and if he gets hurt,he will regret what he did.
So,the Giants won the Super Bowl but from my perspectivre it was very uninspiring. Remember,I was a scout and scouts are paid to be objective but critical given the money and impact involved.
Even Frwell said" I had no idea how good JPP was" That;\'s the D.C. saying t6hey stepped in shit. I still have some friends active around the league who felt that Jpp had no real experience,a bad back and a bad attitude. That's why he lasted until he did. He has been incredible and a bonified gift.
The problems the Giants have are still there. They were the worst rushing team in football and second worst running the ball. Wilson had the "infamous" stats but I saw him twice and wasn't very impressed. He is too small andhe is not a back to carry the load when Bradshaw is out.
Remember,Bradshaw has yet to play a full season so,one has to envision what kind of running game we will have.
I think Eli Manning had as good a season as anyone who has ever worn any uniform. I wrote that I could think of no other event than his marriage and birth of his daughter that mature4d him as it did.
Remeber one thing! Peyton Manning "was" the Colts as Eli is the Giants. No one wants to see him hurt but if isn't protected better the odds are he will.
I don't like Coughlin which goes way back to Jacksonville. There was a true star named Tony Boselli who because he was pushed to play injured had a short career. I know guys and not one has a good thing to say about T.c.
I would argue that Spags won the first one and a realmiracle season got it sone last year. The Giants have a lot of holes that were covered during the playoffs but remember,the league is about the worst I have ever seen.
So,we enter the season looking for 2011 again. We'll see but don't buy more than it is.
I have been offered several gigs so,that was a lift. Andy is family bit I will always call em as I see em and your idea that I was happy when the Giants were bad is simply absolutely untrue.
I'm looking forward to this coming season. Let me list what I see as pluses compared to the 2011 season.
1. Overall 2012 will give us better opponents. This should sharpen our execution.
2. Hopefully we will have fewer injuries. 2011 was awful.
3. Running game should improve.
4. By the start of the season the sports writers will have us last in the NFL east.
5. Everyone will want Gilbride tarred and feathered.
6. Everyone will be a" I told u so". Should have drafted a OG or OT in R1 or R2. That would be me( who really knows nothing). Should never draft a running back R1( that would be me and many others).
Meanwhile, re David Wilson, uh oh, is he a reflexive bouncer-outsider? We all know that in today's NFL backs, even Chris Johnson, don't outrace the defense to the outside. Nice piece by Chris Mannix at si.com - excerpt:What the Giants are getting in Wilson is that so-called “home-run threat” — he is a guy who can turn just about any play into a huge gain and a score. (On the flip side, he has a little bit of what I like to refer to as “Barry Sanders Syndrome,” where he’ll take a few big losses here and there while trying to make something happen.http://nfl.si.com/2012/05/03/boom-or-bust-is-david-wilson-new-yorks-next-big-star/?sct=hp_wr_a5&eref=sihp
Funny how all of this is "exactly" what I said and was slandered for saying.
Well,you won't have to read my thoughts anymore and thankfully,I won't have to read your hate mail!
There are those like "mayor" and a bunch of people who have emailed asking me to stay. Well,it's no fun anymore and as we don't get paid no re4ason to subject myself to the abuse.
I said Randle was a good pick and was First to say that Fleener could not block. I don't think Wilson will "get it done" so,we'll see how Philly does after a "great draft and Dallas does after a mediocre draft. Washington beat us twice and if Shanahan doesn't over use "the franchise" the Skins can only improve.
I wonder what the clowns will say if our "luck" runs out!
No doubt the very same people will bore the hell out of anyone who knows the game and the cheerleaders will continue to cheer.
Read the archives about what I have said over the years. Read the two drafts that I did. I stand by my record which is eons above most!!
note that francesa was the one pushing better be lucky than good and reese agreed with him.
yes, reese has always been humble and giving everyone credit--just like coughlin. that is good and secure leadership.
i agree with the 2009 safety thinness and commented so. i felt was the same for TE in 2011, but ballard saved us and we only got hit with big injuries in the super bowl. if that had happened in season, we would have been screwed. of course, most teams arent 4 or 5 deep at TE, so 2 season ending injuries would mess any team up.
yes, luck [and ref calls] do even out over time. also, that flipper anderson catch--mark collins had just twisted his ankle and was hobbled.
randle [or barden] playing on the outside will help our run game because they are bigger and can block. same with hicks. mario is slight and wasnt very good. one of the big reasons the giants were so good at running outside in previous years is because toomer and plax were big and could block or at least nudge their guy enough to let our RBs get by. how many times did we see plax just push a CB's shoulders with his long reach. lots! mario also was not the sharpest tool in box.
agree about fleener and the giants. we need two-way TEs. fleener is a tweener. we need blocking.
@psffur You clearly have no idea why people were criticizing some of your recent/past posts. Or if you do, you just don't care. That's fine. I'm not part of the alleged group that wants you gone from here. You have provided plenty of insightful analysis for the couple years I've been reading this blog. But please, you were laughing it up when we were 6-6 and looking terrible. You were conspicuously absent during the 7-1 stretch after that which included our second super bowl in 5 years! Only to return months later, and describe in a long winded diatribe how empty and disappointing this addition to the trophy case was. That type of talk would only be warranted if we somehow "cheated" to win, or win with a payroll 10x the other teams (a la the Yankees). We played the schedule, and followed the rules, did not cheat (Pats) or engage in any other unsavory behavior (Saints), and took home the PRIZE. That this makes you so angry is very telling about your actual feelings and motivations. Your objective analysis is great. You editorial content has been horrific lately. Stick to the former perhaps. Not to sound harsh, but while Andy has kept silent, it's clear that the majority of the regular posters feel how I do. Sorry.
@psffur good posts get rewarded, and bad posts get ripped--that's how it should be.
by the way, disagreement with assessment is not a problem, happens with all of us. actually, that is what this blog is about: having a healthy discussion on the giants.
for instance, i agree with you about randle being a great value at #2, that fleener--the tweener--cant block [plus gilbride doesnt use receiving TEs well], and that wilson is a solid pick. most agree that philly had a strong draft and washington and dallas average. time will tell if our evals are accurate.
but homers and haters will be called out for being such. and an incoherent/illogical post will be picked apart and proven invalid--this is what happened to your previous post--not all of it, only parts. so what! big deal! stop being so thin-skinned. like i said before: learn from it--analyze what you said, and more importantly, how you said it.
but if you think you are 'eons above most,' well, that comes off as arrogant, and one who doesnt listen, nor want to learn. and that my fellow poster is a shame!
@psffur What are you saying ? That if the Jints don't keep on winning the SB every 5 years you'll be proven right ?