Zero has changed in the last 24 hours. The same team that was 6-9 is now finished for the season at 7-9. Oh, except that Beatty broke his leg, Manning sprained his ankle, Randle sprained his ankle, and Nicks I frankly don't care because the guy is perpetually hurt.
Jerrel Jernigan had his second consecutive strong showing, grabbing 1 TD in the air and running for another. He solidified a roster spot in 2014 last week and he might have played Nicks out of another this week. Jernigan plays a different WR position (more slot/Cruz) than the X of Nicks. But the depth is what will help Reese to look away from Nicks or perhaps bring him back cheaper.
This game was every bit as painful to watch as most if not all of the games this entire season. The Giants had 3 turnovers again, turning the ball over in every single game of the season. That is hard to do. The team finished with 44 turnovers in 2013. Only 2 NFL teams have had 42+ turnovers in a season since 2006: The 2010 Giants and the 2013 Giants.
So many NY Giants players are unrestricted free agents this offseason. We will track them and discuss outcomes in the coming weeks. My top re-signing priority is Linval Joseph, followed by Tuck and Beason at properly priced and structured deals.
In the next couple of days we are going to get the Horse Manure Pt. II, aka Jerry Reese's parade of media softballs and spin. We are going to hear about how the team fought through a slow start and won 7 of the last 10 games. Our job here is to remind you of every single game they won:
1) MIN. Josh Freeman wasn't a member of the team the prior week.
2) PHI. Matt Barkley was in as the 3rd string QB.
3) OAK. Terrelle Pryor had an MCL sprain. Giants still try to lose.
4) GB. Scott Tolzien was brought in from the practice squad. Close to the end.
5) WAS. Second worst team in the NFL, 3-13 with complete dysfunction.
6) DET. Lost 6 of their last 7 games. Will Hill provided the H2 offense.
7) WAS. Another toilet bowl ugly game.
What this list proves is that the Giants were better than the bottom of the heap. That's it. I am afraid that little will change in the offseason. Zero will happen to Reese and Gilbride. Carl Banks, in the post game, put the team in perspective- paraphrased, the Eagles and Dallas are competing (barely!) in the division.. the Redskins are at the bottom, and the Giants are just slightly ahead of the Redskins. Well said. The Giants are just slightly ahead of a dysfunctional and uncompetitive 3-13 team. The 7 wins that the Giants collected are plastic. Much has to be done.
Tuck: "What you saw over the last 10 games is what this team is about." But what about those first 6 games? Let's remember who this team played against- DAL, DEN, CAR, KC, PHI, and CHI. In short, the mainstream of the NFL. Who did the Giants lose to in the last 10 games? DAL, SD and SEA. In short, the mainstream of the NFL. You cannot argue that teams like DAL twice, KC, PHI, CHI, and SD are GREAT teams. Those teams are 52-38. Against the 3 toughest teams they faced, DEN, SEA and CAR, those 3 teams are 36-10. But those 3 teams handed the Giants their worst losses, by a total of 102-23. So let's be honest about the competitiveness of this team.
Let's also be fair to the players and to Tom Coughlin. They never gave up. They played for one another and they played for Coughlin. That is commendable. We do not want to asterisk the wins to smear the players, coaches or their effort.
We want to make it clear that Reese failed to provide adequate resources to OL over the last 4 seasons, with the neglect finally collapsing the foundation this year. His grab of Beason for the last 11 games was a great get which simultaneously indicted the same negligence at that position.
We detailed the 14 reasons why Gilbride should be replaced in a post this past Wednesday. (ADDENDUM Monday AM: Found 1 msmedia scribe who gave Gilbride a 'D' and Quinn an 'F'. Maybe there is a small chance it happens. The rift he reports between Gilbride and Nicks-- good, ship'em both out.)
We are not asking for Reese or Coughlin to be replaced. (LOL, how can you fire your public relations department?!) We simply want Mara and Tisch to recognize that the Giants problems are much deeper than 7-9. Carl Banks sees the issues and urges that everyone feel "uncomfortable" because of the lack of success across the board. Good luck to the entire organization in the offseason in preparing for 2014.
To all of the loyal fans of the NY Giants and this NY Giants blog, Rich, Wonder and I salute you all. It has been a very hard season. That you are here at the end of the year says a lot about your blue colors. Never let it be misconstrued- we all love the NFL, the NY Giants and professional football. We'll be talking Giants football during the offseason. Keep commenting and follow us on twitter to keep the dialogue going. We extend a Happy New Year to everyone for a great 2014. Thanks for being with us.
Re dbs50's comment, here's what Gary Myers reports:
“I think our offense is broken right now and we need to fix that and we need to make some improvements on defense, too,” Mara said. “But obviously the offensive side of the ball we’ve got to improve there and we can’t go into next season with the same personnel.”
Mara said he doesn’t think the situation would ever come to forcing change on Coughlin, but said Coughlin coming back with the same staff needs to be talked about.
“That’s obviously one of the main topics of discussion that we’re going to have at the end of the week, and until we have that, I don’t want to comment on it,” he said. “Certainly there are some changes that need to be made within the entire organization and whether that ends up being one of them or not, I’d rather wait until we have those discussions first.”
The Bucs fired head coach Greg Schiano on Monday, which means offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan, who spent 2004-11 on Coughlin’s staff, the last two as Eli Manning’s QB coach, could be a potential replacement for Gilbride. Coughlin is so loyal to Gilbride he might fire him only if he was absolutely forced to by Mara and Reese.
Just listened to Mara's press conference during my lunch break. Have to say, was pleasantly surprised by a lot of what he had to say. Thought there was some definite ground being laid to dismiss Gilbride, among others. When a trained lawyer like Mara, who's very good at being careful with his words, expresses pique about the fact it took so long to realize that Jernigan could play, and then doesn't step back from his criticism when given the opportunity, that's significant. I also noted how open he seemed to bringing back Sullivan. Again, he could have shot that down, even if behind the scenes there were conversations--but he didn't. Interesting, and--for the time being, at least--encouraging.
I'll also say one more thing. I know people gripe about the ownership from time to time on this blog, and that's fair. But, folks, I'm also a fan of the Mets, Knicks, and Rangers. And so I've come to realize the hard way that having an owner as smart, stand-up, articulate, classy, and committed to winning as Mara shouldn't be taken for granted. Obviously, that's only one piece, but it's a big piece. I also happen to live in DC…if you want to know how much worse things can be.
Thanks for all your hard work during a difficult season, Andy. I'm sure there will be plenty of changes to chronicle in the off-season, too
Great review of a lost season. Best quote I completely agree with you on and don't bother commenting nor reading Big blue view is that Linval Joseph resigning is vital to our defense success. 80% of the morons on that site think we will be fine with Hankins and the rest of the old DT retreads. Linval is the anchor of our defense if they're as foolish to let him go which I fear Reese might this team will suffer greatly.
Today's game was garbage. The most pitiful game I've ever watched and I frequently kept switching over to red zone channel as it was just putrid.
Worst part is everyone will be back including KG after all garbage wins. At least the year before we had one signature win against SF.
Now are draft position is mediocre for how horrific this team is. We will probably Draft a CB like Dennard where we're picking at 12. When we could've had a shot at clone had we lost these last 2 meaningless games. One bright side is Cousins really sucks and I think RG3 is done for good so that'll at least be 2 wins for years to come.
Brilliant summation as always. The only thing the 7-3 record in the last 10 games demonstrates is that the team didn't give up on their coach. They continued to show up when a lot of other teams would have packed it up. But the quality of this team is better illustrated by its point differential than by its record. This is a team that scored 294 pts and gave up 383. That's a -89 point differential. Here, by the way, are the point differentials of the other 7-9 teams:
(1) Tenn (-19)
(2) Det (+19)
(3) StL (-16)
So, the reality is that we're talking about a team that was much, much worse than its mediocre record would indicate. They were more in the 4-12 or 5-11 range than 7-9. And if they had faced Foles in the second Eagles game and Rodgers in the GB game, 5-11 is what they would have been. They also had a luxury that St Louis, for example, didn't--playing in a division where they got to play the Skins twice.
So, this should be the basis for evaluation. I hope Gilbride is given the heave ho, though I'm less sure than I was two weeks ago that he would be let go. Only a few reporters (thanks, Politi and D'Alessandro) have gotten on that bandwagon. It's true, KG's offenses have never performed even close to this poorly in the past, but that's not the point. Don't tell me that the Giants set team records for points scored in the past five seasons prior to this one. Comparing NFL offenses of today to those of the past is like comparing the proverbial apples and oranges. You practically have to throw for 4,000 yards a season at this point to be considered a top (not even elite) QB. Besides, the issue with Gilbride has always been adjustments, decisionmaking, scoring in the red zone. He never managed to create an offense that could consistently, methodically move down the field and score. Enough said.
Whatever happens with the coaches, I'm sure they'll zero in on trying to fix the OL in the offseason. It can't be as bad as this year, I think--I hope. So, we'll have to keep fingers crossed on Eli. Most people on this blog seem to think that Eli's the least of our worries. I thought the same for the first 10 games or so of the season. But, piss poor as his protection has been, as much as his RBs and WRs and TEs have let him down, Eli's play these last few games has been troubling. He's fallen back into habits we haven't seen since pre-SB '07. I hope coming back with a fresh slate next year will prove just what the doctor ordered. But I worry that if he gets off to a shaky start again, he might not recover. We'll see.
@dbs50 He straight up said "the offense is broken" and that "changes within the entire organization need to be made".
There's a glimmer of hope.
@the mayor The difference with Joseph is that he's ours, we drafted him, all he does is play, he's young, pay him.. IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING BAD AND ACCEPTABLE, or GOOD AND GREAT. This is why you clean house of the Websters and Baas's, so that you make the money room for the future, and Joseph should be in our future. If another team wants to pay astronomical money, well ok, I get that. But barring it being completely unreasonable, bring him back. At 25, he's got 4 quality years ahead of him before his DT/trench body breaks down. These are the guys you go to war with.
@dbs50 the pt differential for teams who are 7-9 is another stark way of showing how uncompetitive they are. yes, this is a 4-12 or 5-11 team, and that fits in with what Banks said about them being slightly above the Skins.
@ultimatenyg @dbs50 But I guess 7-9 will cut it. They said everybody was on notice and that 8-8 wasn't going to cut it. But I guess 7-9 cuts it when you consider that they easily could have been 10-6, having played close games with Dallas and Chicago (but conveniently forget that they easily could have and probably should have been 4-12 assuming they had played actual NFL teams most weeks..).