More bad football. "The teams traded mistakes throughout." The procession of opponents with not-ready-for-primetime QBs continued.
- Josh Freeman in his first appearance in a Viking uniform. Check.
- A hobbled Vick, followed by Matt Barkley. Check.
- A hobbled Pryor who was unable to run beyond a trot. Check.
Up next is
Aaron Rodgersbroken collarbone, Seneca Wallacegroin injury, Scott Tolzien from the practice squad?
At least the Giants defense is not allowing any TDs to these imposters. The defense has gone 3.5 games w/o letting the opponent into the end zone. Given the Giants offensive turnovers (2) and mayhem of special teams (1 turnover), that alone is impressive. To repeat a line we tweeted, it reminds us of the 1970s when the Defense would successfully get off the field and tell the Offense to hold'em until they could get back out there and put up more points. Terrell Thomas picked off Pryor, who was positively woeful (11/26 122 yds 0 TDs 1 INT) inside the pocket. The 65 yard INT return to the OAK 3 yard line was instrumental in the setup for the go ahead TD.
The star of the game was Andre Brown. Give the Giants coaches credit for using their one designation of short term IR on this player. It was worth it. Brown ran effectively, getting a 5 yard gain on one play where he was dialed in for a loss behind the line of scrimmage. He single-handedly turns the Giants' short yardage woes into an asset, as he can get the extra yard or the TD in that situation. He sees the whole field. He adds the 1 or 2 extra yards for down and distance. He blocks. He cuts back when there is nothing in front of him.
JPP got a sack before hurting his shoulder. He came back in the game.
As we stated yesterday, all of this feasting on bad QBs for wins is doing one huge thing: it is buying time for JPP to get back his mojo, if that can indeed happen here in 2013. Between getting Hill, Beason and Brown into the lineup, the team is getting better.
I am a staunch defender of Eli Manning as part of another Giants title run in this franchise's future, but Porter's INT today was unfortunately a reminder that his old habit (think 2007 vs MIN) of telegraphing has come back to haunt him. His stat line was not much better than Pryor's (12/22 140 yds 1 TD 1 INT).
The Defense got 4 sacks. They limited OAK to 2/12 on 3rd down. Antrel Rolle had a very good game, with 10 tackles, 1 sack, and 1 huge tackle at the 1 yard line that ended up in a FG instead of a TD.
The special teams gaffes continue. Jernigan fumbled the opening kickoff. Weatherford had a horrible day punting, including one that was blocked in Q4. Offsetting this to a degree was DaMonster's punt block for a Giants TD. Kind of frightening where the Giants would be today w/o the Thomas pick and Moore specials play. It's a win. They all count. Onto the next bad QB.
I agree that Philly looks like the main contender for the NFC East now. Dallas had the division gift-wrapped to them and haven't been able to run away with it. Got to love that!
Eli worries me. I have always been a staunch supporter of Eli (for younger brothers everywhere!) but he seems to have taken several steps backwards this year. I know the line has been terrible and still isn't great, but the continued pressure seems to have gotten to him. Even when he has time back there now, he seems to rush his passes. And screens - the Giants haven't run a decent screen in years and now I am wondering if the common denominator in their inability to run a screen might be Eli. It just isn't something he does very well.
In general, It just seems like Eli has lost his mojo. I have a hard time imagining him bringing this team back in a 4th quarter situation right now, like he has done in years past.
I would be interested everyone's take on that.
I'm not worried about Philly or Dallas at this point yet. We have to just keep winning, then I can get excited. The one thing about yesterday is that we really ran the ball effectively. If this continues then I believe that the passing game will improve. Defenses haven't had to worry about the run at all, and therefore they have been able to double Cruz and Nicks. Randle is single covered and that's why he has been able to have some success. Our TE is not even a factor. ( thank you Mr Reese ) I envision a safety coming down to the box if Brown continues to run well. And if that happens, the passing game will become a strength again. At least that's what I'm hoping. Right now, win next week and the next and then we can talk. Right now...baby steps!
Commander Shepard wrote:
"Philly may be a bigger threat than Dallas at this point."
Who among us, no matter how much we love Eli and are confident he'll round back into form (even if it's next year), isn't looking at Philly with a little envy over its hot young QB?
Well, we'll take it. That's about all I can say. Damn this offense is wretched. Though Andre Brown's return is a definite uptick. Pass protection is still pretty iffy, and Eli and the receivers still can't get on the same page half the time. As usual Gilbride makes me scratch my head on too many occasions.
The "good" thing is that Dallas (blew game against Detroit, barely beat Minny, crushed by Saints) and Washington (blown out by Denver, shaky win vs. SD, lost to Vikings) haven't looked good the last few weeks. 6-6 is absolutely on the table, which would quite possibly bring with it a share of the division lead. Philly may be a bigger threat than Dallas at this point. How absurd is that?
@jfoster When you have no time to look down field and you are not a mobile QB you are dead. Tom Brady was made to look ordinary by our D in both SB due to pressure. Eli is the same Eli he has always been IMHO. I have heard Simms and other say it time and time again, pressure gets to you, even when there is no pressure the clock in your head gets sped up.
@I Bleed Blue Without a Oline that can protect, the passing game will not improve. The safety in the box will mean nothing if Eli can't wait for his receivers to clear.
@RussWellen1 Honestly? Not I, not yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. If they Eagles take the east this year and win a playoff game (along with Eli bumbling along for the rest of the final 7 games) then we'll talk. Maybe.
@CommanderShepard @RussWellen1 Agree with CS. Hot young QBs have a way of getting figured out after a while. Foles's numbers are benefiting from being in a great offensive system, not to mention some weak or banged up teams. If the Jints can pull together anywhere near the offensive support that Philly has, I'll stick with Eli
@jfosterThat's because there is more pressure on him then past seasons and yes, it is a cumulative effect. The clock in your head gets faster. Not having a OC who knows WTF he is doing and makes no adjustments and can't even coach his team to run a simple screen does not help matters any.
@I Bleed BlueThat would be a tall order indeed. That would only be a bandaid on a systemic problem that will lead to things staying the same. What I mean is, if we win a few games and maybe, because of the horrid play in the NFL in general, make the playoffs, we will be stuck with the same OC and HC next year. We will not go anywhere in the playoffs with no Oline so what's the point in just making it. We would need any given sunday 3 sundays in a row to win another SB